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Candace Maracle: Now in this
last video, I'm gonna be talking

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about how best to get in touch
with people in Indigenous

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communities, how to get those
interviews, and what to do, what

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kinds of questions to ask, once
you're sitting with your

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interviewee. I remember when I
was working at CBC and one of

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the colleagues looked over to me
and said that I was probably one

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of the most dogged chased
producers she'd ever worked

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with. I was trying to chase down
someone in Attawapiskat, for a

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story I was doing on the people
who had been first approved to

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get the house on this long wait
list of people who actually were

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in urgent need. They didn't have
running water in some cases, or

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plumbing or hydro, let alone an
easy way to reach them. Which

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brings me to my second point is
for journalists, we tend to get

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a little bit lazing. And I think
it's really important if we want

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to get the best story and put it
out there for all to consume,

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that we want to be really dogged
in our search for the best

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guest. It's very easy for us to
fall back on that contact list

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in the interest of time and
deadlines, and to reach out for

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the first person that we that
we're familiar with. But in this

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way, our stories tend to be kind
of narrow, or at least the scope

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of them. And I think we would do
well to get the Indigenous voice

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that's not often heard that kind
of perspective that we don't

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often get to hear from or see.
The person who's not a chief

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actually had a film critic, talk
to me about my movie, critique

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my movie, before I had applied
the titles to it, and assumed

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that every person I had
interviewed was a chief. The

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people in our communities with
the strongest and best voice for

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your story might not necessarily
be the chief or band Council. We

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have a lot of untapped wisdom in
our communities. And reaching

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out to someone just by doing a
little bit of extra digging

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would help bring a really fresh
and unique perspective to your

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story. One of the other points
that I want to make is that I

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think your assumptions are best
left at the door, at least to be

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aware of your personal biases,
and everyone has them, even

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though we might like to think
that we don't. We do. If you've

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never had an addict in your
family, it's going to be very

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difficult for you to be able to
relate to one in reference to

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your story. Be accountable. If I
intend to work with a community

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again, or cover a story or an
issue that's going on within

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that community, I had better
make sure that I'm going to be

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accountable in some way to that
community. A simple follow up

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call or an email will do. But
what I've experienced is that

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some communities are quite
reluctant to give interviews if

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they've already been poorly
depicted in media. This makes it

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really hard for journalists to
do our jobs, because some

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journalists maybe didn't do this
very well. While I'm doing the

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story, I might ask myself, will
the community consider it to be

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an accurate depiction of what's
actually going on with this

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community? Or is it more
sensational? Will it contribute

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to a greater awareness? Or will
it trigger anger and hostility,

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Lindsay Monture: There was
always these cameras and stuff

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around there would always be on
the other side of the barrier.

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And they're kind of always
covering from the Caledonia side

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of things and verybody was, like
kind of excited to see that we

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were on the news, but also kind
of I don't know, I felt a lot of

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times it turned sour for us,
because of the way that we were

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being represented, how the story
wasn't, wasn't really, it seemed

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like a lot of things were out of
context, you know, and they

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didn't get the full story or
like the history about the

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Haldimand Tract treaty, and why
this is all happening. They're

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just kind of shooting all the
chaos and stuff that was going

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on. Without giving it that
context, and really taking the

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opportunity if you're telling
the story to actually educate

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the viewers about why this is
happening. How did it get to

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this point, you know, and what
we hope to happen from here, you

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know, and what are what are
Canadians responsibility in this

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situation too? Right, it's not
just an isolated situation for

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you know, people in Caledonia
and for us. You know, this is

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all over Canada. They need to
look at what land whose land

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they're on and what are the laws
of that land. You know, what are

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the treaties set in place and
the agreements made between

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Canadians and Indigenous people?